4G63 motor is in the car!

I received my motor all built up and I put the accessories on and such, then we dropped the motor in the car!  Still have a bit of stuff to do, but I have the majority of it handled.  I was missing some pieces parts to finish everything up, so I have everything I need (in theory) on order now.  Just waiting for it all to arrive and then it will be put together the rest of the way!


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Updates 06/19/17

The motor didn’t arrive this weekend unfortunately, so I started digging into other stuff I wanted to finish before putting the motor in.

ABS delete is done, AC delete is done, Active exhaust stuff is deleted now, broken antenna is deleted, cruise control deleted, rear wiper is deleted, all of the active aero and ECS stuff I could find besides wiring is deleted.  Removed the active aero wing also, putting a 99 Combat wing on the car when it gets painted.

So I made some progress on a little weight reduction/removal of stuff I don’t need. I decided to try to keep my power steering. I will just have to see how that goes when the motor arrives.

Found that I needed to replace one of the shifter arms on my transmission because I bought a 2G when I should have bought a 1G. So I bought the arm and the guy sent the wrong one.. So it wouldn’t have been ready this weekend to drive anyway since people don’t know how to read well I guess.

I’m probably out of time to get the motor in before my wedding unfortunately. The car was supposed to go to paint right after the motor goes in and that will take 2 weeks at the shop. Next weekend I won’t have time to work on it, then I may the following weekend if my plans to as I’d like. Sucks that all of this rushing and putting myself in debt just to get it ready for the wedding may have been for nothing. Getting married July 16th.

Some delays

Ran in to some more delays, the second head I got to replace the one with the cracked guides also had some cracked valve guides, but it was not nearly as bad.  So that cost me less to fix than the other one at least.

I ended up finding that the valve cover I got with the motor was also cracked, so pretty much the only thing that was of any use from the entire long block that I bought was the block itself.  More than a little frustrated about that, but I just want it to all be together and done, so I’m powering through it.  I bought a nice shaved valve cover for it that will look nice.

I also found out that the 2G motor doesn’t have the same rear bracket that the rear motor mount will mount to and that I needed a 195a (part MD136195) bracket that goes on the motor to the rear 4Gswap mount.  I ended up finding someone with the bracket and ordered it.

More bad news was that I bought a 2G DSM AWD transmission thinking that was the one I needed, when I really should have bought a 1G DSM AWD transmission.  Thankfully, modifying the 2G to work wasn’t hard, just needed to bend out one of the shifter arms to flatten it and then replace the other shifter arm (2 bolts) the one from a 1G DSM transmission.  So I have that all handled and it is noted for future reference.

And then some good news, all the parts that I needed for the swap are paid for.  At this point, I’m waiting for a couple parts to arrive in the mail and then I have to put it all together.  I’m aiming for getting a start on it this weekend if the motor is ready by then.

Dropped off the engine to the builder!

I dropped off the motor to the engine builder on 04/28/17.  Ended up finding out a couple days later that the guy who sold it to me lied to my face when he said the motor was good.  The motor apparently had 4 spun rod bearings, the crank was completely garbage, and the guides in the head are cracked.  So really, the only thing usable from the entire thing ended up being the block itself, which somehow escaped without damage from all of the chaos.

So I got a good used crank, I already have forged pistons and rods that are going in to the motor.  It is getting the machine work now for the block.  I’m picking up a good used head this weekend to drop off, and hopefully that will be all we need to get it all together and running finally.

Getting closer!

I just got a Magnus intake manifold, S90 throttle body, and AEM Tru Time Cam gears.  All of the parts and long block are off to the engine builder to machine, put together, time and have it drop in ready in the next week.  After I drop everything off, I should have it all back and together, ready to drop in and go within 2 weeks.  Super excited that I am almost there!  Last part that I have to buy is the clutch, which I’ll buy around the time I get the motor back, it will be the last thing I put in, so it will be the last thing that I buy.


Finally have some updates, but it isn’t done yet.  Still in progress unfortunately.

I’m almost done collecting parts to get this thing all done.  I’m having my new motor built by Donnie in the next few weeks and then it will be dropped in and driving!  Finally getting a lot closer to the goal.

So for the updates part, the build has changed a little in a few ways, and for a few reasons.

Injectors choice changed – I’m going with FIC 1650cc High Z injectors instead of 2150cc injectors.  I decided to go with these after reading some really good reviews and being told my several people that I trust that they’re top notch.  Ultimately, the 1650cc injectors cost me more than I could have picked up a set of 2150cc’s for, but the reason for this is that the 1650 injectors will last a lot longer due to how they’re built.  Plus, I don’t need 2150cc injectors, I was only going to go with those to future proof a bit in case I wanted to go bigger.

Turbo choice changed – this was for several reasons, one of which is unfortunately funding.  I found a really good deal on a real Garrett GTX3076R turbo.  While I was planning on going for the GT3582R, I ended up coming to the realization that my transmission would get destroyed by the power that turbo makes.  It is also very hard to find an affordable clutch that can handle 700awhp/550+tq.  So I am going with the GTX3076R which should make around 550-600awhp/420-480~tq, which means I can go for a $450 clutch that is streetable.  With the power of the GT35R, I would have to go with either a twin disk clutch that runs $1400+ or an ACT2900 which is not very streetable.  With the GTX3076R, I can get the ACT2600 clutch that is streetable and reliable.

Ultimately, just about everything else that was planned is still on course.  Stuff that I have already for the swap as follows:

  • 7 bolt 4G63 block and head
  • Stock 2G AWD 5spd transmission and transfer case.
  • Wiseco 85.5mm forged pistons with Manely rods
  • Garrett GTX3076R turbo
  • PR T3 exhaust manifold with 38mm tial external wastegate
  • BC 272 cams
  • BC valve springs and retainers
  • 3S AEM V2 EMS
  • AEM Wideband
  • ACT StreetLite Flywheel
  • S90 Throttle body
  • Balance shaft delete kit
    And probably some other stuff I’m forgetting.

Things I still need to buy:

  • AEM Black Cam Gears (Just haven’t bought them yet)
  • ACT 2600 clutch (Will probably be the last thing that I buy)

So I’m getting a lot closer! Not a whole lot left to buy thankfully.

Starting the 4G63 build!

I traded off the Eclipse GST for a good 4G63 motor and some other performance parts for it over the weekend.  I also picked up some Weisco 85.5mm pistons and Manley rods for the motor.  It is going to get disassembled and sent to the machine shop soon!

I’m debating on turbos at this point and looking at my options.  I may end up going with a Garrett GT3582R turbo, but I still have not fully decided.  The goal is to be between 600-700awhp on E85 currently.

The VR4 motor is out!

The VR4 motor is out!  Now it is time to start cleaning out the engine bay and getting rid of all the ABS stuff, unnecessary other stuff that I’m deleting like AC lines.  I’m planning to relocate the engine fuse box to the inside of the car and the battery to the trunk while I have everything out.

A friend and I did this in a small garage with no electricity, a small propane heater, and a flashlight in 4 degree weather.  No excuses!

The 4G motor in my eclipse is getting pulled in the next week or two, then I will start to build the motor and head to drop them in to the VR4.

Goodbye Eclipse

Whatever the issue was with the eclipse where the speedometer didn’t work causing the transmission to not shift seems to be internal of the transmission. I’m not trying to have two projects going at once and decided to do as I originally intended and pulling that motor out of the Eclipse and building it to put in the VR4. This means goodbye to the Eclipse. I’m parting out the Eclipse after I pull the motor. The more I dug in to it, the more of a piece of crap the car seemed.

Purchased a 98 Eclipse GST

I purchased a 98 Eclipse GST on Monday night that has a bad vehicle speed sensor. I was thinking I would just pull the motor out of it and build it to put in the VR4, but when I got there, the car looked too nice to take apart haha. Going to replace the speed sensor this week, if that fixes it, that car may be my new DD while the VR4 is down.

So now I am still looking for a motor for the VR4, but I’ll have an Eclipse to toy around with in the mean time!

I don’t really intend to do much to the Eclipse, but I’m going to track the builds for both the VR4 and Eclipse here going forward since I do have a couple of things I would like to do with the Eclipse too. One of those things is that I am going to get a Forced Four shift box for it and try to set up some paddle shifters. I also plan on upgrading to a 20G turbo for a little bit of extra fun. ATX ~350-400HP Eclipse will make for a fun daily driver. We’ll see what happens with the Eclipse, but right now it is bone stock and will stay that way for a little while so that the funds will be going towards the VR4.

VR4 plan is still a 4G63 swap with a billet Holset HX40 on E85. I’m still planning to keep it a manual 5 speed currently. 600-700awhp will be pretty nice for that car, I’ll still be able to drive it on the street and enjoy it at the track as well.